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Post by Asad Rizvi on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:35 am

Zaki Baqri from Canada has been caught as a Wahabi agent. Is it true ? If not then what does www.azadar.com says??

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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Ykazmi on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:49 pm

Zaki baqi ALim-e-deem hain, un ke qirdar, un ka Elim Saab ke samnye hain, jab ke un pe ye iLzaam laganye walye WWW.azadar.com ke logo ka qirdar, un ka iLem bhi qoom ke samnye hain.
Jahalat ke koie HAD nahi hoti, ye Lamehdood hai, or agar koie ALIM inn jahilo ko naseehat karye tu un ko bura lagta hai.
Zaki Baqri Qoom ka ASASA hai,

Kisi qoom ke Elimi satHa ka andaza lagana ho tu, uss qoom mey ULMA ka Ehtaram dekh lo.

I use to listen zaki baqi since a long time, I never heard any thing irrespectively.

www.azadar.com walye sirif aik zaki baqi ko hi nahi, Mohtaram Jawad Naqvi ke barye mey bhi nazeeba baatine kar chukye hain.

allah un ko hidayat de,

Zaki baqri, Jawad Naqvi dono ke hi mey sunnta raha hon, or wo Zakireen jiss ke tareef kartye hain un ko bhi sunnye ka itefaq howa hai.

Rahe-HAQ pe chalnye walo pe hameesha say hi keechar uchali jati rahi hai.

Imam-e-Alimeen, Mola-e-Mutaqiyan "Ali ibne ibetalib (A.S)" ke shahadat ke khaber jab SHAM pohnchi, tu SHAMiyo ko iss baat pe Heirangi the ke ALI (A.S) Masjid mey kaisay shaheed hoe, or Masjid kia karnye gae the. Maviya nay MOLA ALi (A.S) ke barye mey iss qadar propaganda kia howa tha ke MAZ Allah SHAMI, MOLA ke shaksiyat ko bohat bura samjhtye thay.
Aik zamanye tak BANU Umaiya , nay apnye Quqarareen ke zariye Ehle-bait ke khilaf propaganda karwaya. un pe bohTan lagaye.

Behtar hai aap loog bhi inn Qabil-e-Ehtram shaksiyat ke barye mey koie faisla karnye say pehlay, acchi tarha maloomat kar laine, inn hazrat ke MAjalis sun laine, or iss pe tehqeeq karine, phir koie faisla sadir karine.
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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Aliraza on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:26 am

Jab yeh baat mujhe maool phari to "Hairat say meri ankhen bahar aa gayne" kaan say suni hui baat per bharosa nahi hua to net ki madad lay kar given website per check kiya or diye huay links ko bhi dekha. jis per mujhe kafi hairat hui

Khiar!

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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Asad Rizvi on Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:35 am

I too think the similar to you Mr. Aliraza. To bro Ykazmi I would like to say kay aapnay bari sakhti say is baat ki mukhalfat ki hai lekin agar aapnay azadar.com par audio aur video links check kiye hon to us mein in ulama jin mein Zaki Baqri,Jawad Naqvi,Tahira Jaffar aur inkay ilawa kuch aur shamil hain ..inhonay nay is had tak qabil-e-aitraz baatein ki hain jinhen ek aam sa jaahil banda bhi maannay say inkar karega aur uskay khilaf dalayel bhi dega ..
Lekin kyunke yahan aapne in baton ko bohat sakhti say rad kiya hai to main chahunga kay aap apnay is aitraz kay haq mein kuch mudallil dalayel pesh karen..
Isliye kay yahan baat aapki ,meri ya kisi aur ki sirf zaati raaye ki nahi horahi hai balkay yahan hum kuch intehayi motabar hazraat ki kaar farmaiyon par behes kar rahay hain jinki koi bhi bat,koi bhi amal millat kay deeni aur ikhlaqi aqayed ko ba raah e raast mutassir kar sakta hai aur maine yahan yeh mozu bhi isi liye chuna takay main aur mujh jaisay tamam kam ilm logon ko kuch aisay dalayel aur shawahid mil saken jinsay hum sab unlogon ke baray mein koi hatmi raye qayem kar saken .. Kya yeh waqayi koi propaganda hai ya iski koi haqeeqat bhi hai ..??

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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Admin on Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:01 am

As'salam-o-Alikum Asad Rizvi:

For being to start my ideology I would like accuse with Admin group Just because i am going to write something in URDU format!


So, Asad baat aap ki baja hai or kabilay kabul bhi hai but fikar is baat ki hai kay jo mumla aaj say 7 month pehlay paish aaya jis per nukta cheeni aaj ki ja rahi hai kya us waqt kisi ko khayal nahi aaya is baat ka or sab say bari baat yeh kay Ullma Chamber nay aaj tak is baat per koi action liya kyun nahi..?? Well it's internal matter or waise bhi kal tak baat Molanaon ki kijati thi lakin aaj to Nohe khun (especially safir-e-aza ) sahab bhi apni masjid bananay ki tayyari main hain.

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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Asad Rizvi on Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:11 am

I didn't understand even a word of what u wrote ..
Waisay yahan baat kisi khaas waqt ki nahi horahi kay kisnay kya kaha aur kitnay logon tak uski baat pohnchi aur kitnay mustanad logon nay uskay qol ki tayeed ya tardeed ki ..yahan to baat sirf ye h hai kay humen to sirf ye dekhna hai kay wo jo humari nazron mein buland maqaam aur moatabar hain unhonay kahi bhi koi qaabil e aitraaz baat kyun kahi aur kahi bhi hai ya nahi .. humen to sirf yehi jaanna hai ...

Aur jahan tak Imam(a.s) kay zahoor ki baat hai to zahir hai kay hum mein say har ek to taqway kay us stage par nahi pohnch sakta jispay humaray ulama aur akabireen say umeed ki jati hai to sawal yahan yeh paida hota hai kay jab hum inki taraf say hi mashkook hongay to zahoor-e- Imam e Zamana(a.s) ke liye humein tayyar kon karwaye ..??

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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Ykazmi on Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:51 pm

Brothers And sister give me some time please.

I am very busy now a days, My exam is starting from Monday. It will finish on Tuesday.
I will give a detail reply on Wednesday insha allah.

and i will try to research on it, phir iss NA-CHEEZ ye RAYE paish-e-khidmat ho ge.
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Post by Ykazmi on Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:24 am

Mey nay aaj as per my promise, zaki baqri or jawab naqvi ke taqreer suni.

Mey nay koie aik baat bhi ghalat nahi pae un ke guftagu mey.

Aap logo ko mashwara hai zaki baqri ke taqreer ghoor say sunye poori, or MANI or MATAN samjhnye ke koshish karine, english mey hai tu uss ko pause kar kar ke samjhnye ke koshish karine.

Jawad naqvi , ke taqreer mey Etiraz kiss baat pe hai ye baat samjhnye say qasir hon, Nehjul balaga mey Imam ali A.S ke Waseehat jo MOLA Hussain A.s or Mola Hasan A.s ko ke hai wo parh laine, .
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Post by Admin on Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:35 am

Ykazmi, I'll check it again with my whole concentration!

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Post by Ykazmi on Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:29 am

check it again, and please do let us know.
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Post by Asad Rizvi on Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:13 am

Eefa-e-ehad bara mushkil kaam hai so aapnay kar hi daala .. lekin mozu yeh tha kay is baat ki khoj lagayi jaaye kay jo batein [url=http://www.azadar.com www.pasban-e-aza.com]www.azadar.com www.pasban-e-aza.com[/url] walay kar rahay thay to wo aisa kyun kar rahay hain jabke wo bhi millat e Jaffaria ki nashr o asha'at ke liye hi kaam kar rahay hain to aisi konsi khaas bat hai kay unhone tamam aalim e deen ko chor kar sirf Zaki baqri aur deegar ko hi apni tanqid ka nishana banaya ..?
Yahan hona to ye chahiye tha kay jo mazkura bala websites inke khilaf propaganda kar rahi hain unse unki zabani haqaeq jaannay ki koshish ki jati aur phir kisi nateejay aur pohncha jata aur zahir hai ke yeh kaam itna sehl nahi tha jitna khud apni koi raye pesh karke usko mudallil bananay kay liye Nehjul Balagha ke hawalay istamal kiye gaye ..lekin aisa hai kay baat kuch bani nahi .......
lehaza is silsilay mein mazeed tehqeeq ke liye ek aur ehd-e-no ki zarurat hai .. bashart e fursat

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Post by zainab on Thu May 22, 2008 3:47 pm

me nahi smjhti k zakki bakri jaisy alim aisy ho skty he its jst prapoganda and nothingsirf alimo ko badnam krny k liya
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Re: Zaki Baqri - A Wahabi Agent - Is it true ?????

Post by Fida wal muqawamah on Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:05 am

Firstly i would like to say that i totally agree with what ykazmi had said... secondly i would like to answer the question raised by Asad rizvi... that y this particular group of maulanas have been targeted by these Abu fitnas of our era...? the answer is that no other maulana other than baqri(i dont know of the others) speeched against America and its atrocities.. except baqri who talk about muslim unity...?
plus maulana baqri is hated only by those who think that taking out processions, carrying of alam and tabut and shedding crocodiles tears is the only wayout and is the only message given by the Greatest sacrifice of muhammad (saw) and ale muhaammad(saw).. especially that of imam hussain(as)... Imam hussain(as) gave a big sacrifice just for weeping and juloos...
Ap log khud gawah hain.. humaray yahan jo julos nikaltay hain kitnay wo paigham hussain ko bta rae hotay hain... instead sunni ppl k samnay shiaon aur shiit ki tazlil hoti hai... adhi awam chola chat mei masroof hoti hai.. aurton ko koi tameez nai hoti.. mardo mei ghus jati hain... kitnay mard is baat ki sharm ko mehsos kartay hain k matam k waqt apni qamizain na utaray... who is potraying a bad image of shiite infront of other ppl... arnt we responsible for our actions...?
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Post by Fida wal muqawamah on Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:26 am

han mei janti hon k un ko jahilon k mind level k mutabiq hi kehna chahiye tha... un ki agar to kuch galti hi to sirf ye...
now i will come to the main point... aj taak jitnay alam uthay.. jitnay zuljanah saje aur jitnay b taziyati juloos niklay kitno ne shia community ko uplift kiya? zara mujhe is ka jawab den... jitni b majalis zaki baqri.. ali murtaza .... aqeel ul gharvi se pehle parhi gai kitno ne shiaon k ilm mei izafa kiya.. kitno ne shia awam ko sahi rah per gamzan kitno nay Imam Zamana(as)atf ki mujoodgi ya phir us k liye jido jehad ka hukm diya.. kitnay maulana baqri se pehlay aisay the jinho ne najawano ki problems ko address kia, kitny maulanas aisay hain jo k na sirf problems ko addres karte hain belke un ka hal b paish arte hain... HOW MANY??? I ASK??? KITNI DAFA KITNAY MUHARAM KITNI MAJALIS aisi guzr gai jab siwaye khandaq o khyber k awam ne ulema se kuch na suna... kitnay nare lage likan gareeb shiaon ki halt durust hoi in hi naron se.... Iran mei kitnay hi aisa ulema hain jo studies k naam per wahan per apni 2nd generation tak pal rae hain.. magar unki studies mukamil nai hoi... ji wo pakistani hi hain... ye shiite ka naam roshan karay ge jo apnay bhai per bhooj ban jae wo to apna naam na roshan karsake ga na k pori ki pori shiite ka.. Laughing ... b
ab suniye haqeqat... mei kitnay hi aisay logo ko janti hon jin perbaqri asar andaz howe hain... unho ne ganay suna choray, hijab shoro kiya, nmaz shoro rozay rakhna shoro kiye.... dhool bajaanay se ziada koi qabih fail ho hi nai sajkta unho ne wo chora.... khums b denay lagay... ye hoti hai tabdili jo koi naik sharif baikhlaq aur alim hi lasakta hai... warna begar amal k agar koi baat kahi jae to befaida hai...
Iqbal ne kaha.: dil se jo baat nikalti hai asar rakhti hai
par nahi quwat parwaz magar rakhti hai...

haqeqat hai...! Nabi(saw) aur aima(as) k aqwal hain... k naseehat bager amal k bekar hai...
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Post by Fida wal muqawamah on Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:40 am

i know maulana baqri very well... wo na to wahabi agent hain aur naa hi irani agent... wo woi hain jo wo boltay hain... mei ne khud un se itnay sawal kiye hain... aur kisi ka b unho ne khlafe Fiqah e Jafferia jawab nai diya... wo meri life mei meray ustad ki haisiyat rakhtay hain aur mei unki maqrooz hn.. agar ap kisi k khyalat jo k galat b nai hain per agar ap un se ikhtilaf kartay b hain to khudara us shaks per tuhmat mat lagadiya kare.. foran se..! pyaray bhaion aur behano khud se dara karo apni zaban chalatay howe... ye na sirf ye k borai hai magar ye k ye tuhmat hai... tuhmat kisi momin per laganay ki kia saza hoti hai is ka hum tasawar bhi nai kar sajkktay hain... bager sochay samjhe mat bola kijiye... bcoz hum sub ko aik dinkhuda k samanay jawab dehi k liye hazir hona haai.... plz!!!
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Post by Admin on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:05 am

Fida, dont be emotional it's forum everyone have rights to ask what is
running in his/her mind, so just share your knowledge and describe as
much as you can.

Please dont mind for this much rude way!

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Post by Syeda on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:30 am

Salam,
Fida ne thora emotional jawab diya but she's right.......Baqri and some other mualanas arent "Agents"...They r just trying to make shias more practical and pragmatic.........Thats what some elements dont want to happen.......Well everyone has the right to speak for themselves and so do Fida.........
Zaher hai ke koi bhi nare, alam n juloos ki mukhalifat nai karta but wat Baqri wanted to say was ke in se shiaon ne kia sikha????
Aur Shiaon ki halat dkh kr koi bhi kah sakhta hai ke kch bhi nai sikha.hat was the point ke juloos jalse, zanjeer qama sab karte rahen but un amal ko baja layen jin ke liye Imam Hussain(as) sacrificed every thing.........wat we do doesnot show the real essence of the tragedy of karbala.......Our character should be that strong that it can speak of itself.........THAT WE R SHIAS OF ALI(AS)
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Post by Syeda on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:34 am

Live like Ali Alihisalam die like Hussain Alihisalam sunny
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Post by Fida wal muqawamah on Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:16 pm

salam,
first i would like to clear that i did not target the members my real targets were azadar.com and pasban e aza.... secondly i ask them wat prove do they have that Baqri is a wahabi agent??? its just simple that in pakistan there is atradition that if u dont agree with someones ideas (which r even right) u just put a label on him/her of being an agent of something or somewhere...
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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:23 pm

I understand fida, last time your assent so hard that's why i behave very rude way, well sorry for that

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Post by Syeda on Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:27 pm

Salam,
Azadar walooon ne bohat hi biased news di thi bcz , they didnt show the video in which all the maulanas questioned maulana Baqri n he answered all of them after which all other maulanas agreed that the accusation was wrong.....and maulana baqri has got all right to continue majalis in Canada as well as else where...tu seems that there is some problem with azadar and pasban e aza
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